by KeithE » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:03 am
Since when did "Ancient" mean 2008.
If you think Climategate changed many climatologist's minds, it is up to you to prove that point; not just make yet another argument based on your assessment of an article being "alarmist" (your points 1 &3) or claim a notion is "bogus" (point 2). Investigations have said there is no compromise in the thermometer data of near surface temps and besides it is confirmed by 2 indepenednt sets of satellite data at about +0.13 deg/decade rise.
And btw only the public's view was a Gallup poll (the survey of 3146 scientists was conducted by Doran/Zimmerman).
Let's wait to see Hulme's newest book (and the context around that quote) instead of quoting an article about it by a clearly denialist source. Denialists work on planting seeds of doubt and usually do not produce data to make their points. Merely saying there are only a few dozen scientists developed this "concensus of AGW" is quite frankly disproved by the 2008 data I gave above as well as the many diverse skills that agreed with the IPCC reports in 2001, 2007.
Since July 2009 and DATA shows increased near surface air temps (about 0.2-0.3C higher than the highest years ever - 1998 or 2005). . Or look at the ground temp measurements data . Read instructions at both sites.
I look at DATA not rhetoric.
Informed by Data.
Driven by the SPIRIT and JESUS’s Example.
Promoting the Kingdom of GOD on Earth.